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Is England’s batting really that great?

Maybe so…

The current series between England and the West Indies is looking very one-sided. Records are being set – or so the press would have us believe. In the first test, four England players scored centuries, which was the second time ever that had happened – for England (first time was 1938). Other countries have had 4×100 in an innings more recently than that, but never mind.

Don’t get me wrong – it’s good. But let’s look at the bigger picture.

In the second test (still being played) England have racked up another massive total, with Kevin Pietersen hitting 226 – which every paper has reported is the highest England innings since Graham Gooch’s 333 vs India in 1990. (What we should ask is why has it taken so long, given that every other major test nation has had at least one 270+ innings in the last 10 years…)

So are England such a good batting line-up? Or is this a weak set of West Indies bowlers?

The Windies best bowler is Corey Collymore, ranked 10 in the world. Their next bowlers are ranked 31, 38, 41, 43, 45 and 49 – and the 31st and 41st aren’t playing. Collymore is not that great a bowler either, with 86 wickets in 27 tests at an average of 31. Nothing too scary there.

England in contrast have 4 batsmen in the top 15 in the world, with Pietersen at 3.

And the conclusion is… well, I hardly need to spell it out.

So when the papers make such a deal about the biggest score since X or most centuries in a series since Y, remember that a) it’s a mismatch and b) it’s always the biggest something since one date in the past. That’s the way history goes.

Sven

Apparently Sven is the most successful England coach ever, according to the Sunday Times. I happily debunk this myth on my research blog, but it’s worth bearing in mind for all those Manchester City fans who might get Mr Eriksson as their manager next season. This one has been as on and off as a relationship with, well, Sven. Apparently, he now will marry Nancy. Good luck to them both.

Sven is actually quite a good domestic manager, with quite a haul of trophies inlcuding the Serie A with Lazio. But is it worth hiring him given the inevitable publicity and saga? That’s something even the best economist might find hard to measure…

Random Sven fact: Eriksson is so far the only manager who was won the Double (League and Cup in the same season), in three different countries: Sweden, Portugal and Italy. (Thanks Wikipedia)

Sven, success and the Sunday Times

Sven just won’t go away. He has not been the manager of the England football team for the best part of a year now, yet the media circus goes on. There was his recent appearance on Inside Sport (May 21), where he claimed (as usual) that he was value for money. There is the astonishing fact that the FA has paid him £25m and he is still on a salary for doing zilch.

And then there was that Sunday Times magazine cover story from April 29. In which they dish little dirt, reveal a few “facts” to make him seem like a philanthropist (He apparently turned down over 40 appearances worth over £2m in fees), and set his record straight.

According to Sunday Times and their England manager’s league table, “Even counting two draws that went to penalty shoot-outs as defeats, Eriksson was England’s most successful coach of the modern era. The table only counts competitive matches, not friendlies”

Well, this is an interesting point of view. (By modern era, I presume they count all the managers in the table.) What exactly is success here? I have amended the table to include points and points per game, which work on the basis of 3 pts for a win and 1 for a draw, and I have moved two of Eriksson’s draws into the lost column as the STimes suggests.

Played Won Won% Drew Drew% Lost Lost% Points Points per game Trophies

Eriksson 38 26 68.4 7 18.4 5 13.2 85 2.2 0

Greenwood 26 17 65.4 5 19.2 4 15.4 56 2.2 0

Robson 44 22 50.0 15 34.1 7 15.9 81 1.8 0

Taylor 19 8 42.1 8 42.1 3 15.8 32 1.7 0

McClaren 6 3 50.0 2 33.3 1 16.7 11 1.8 0

Hoddle 15 9 60.0 3 20.0 3 20.0 30 2.0 0

Revie 10 6 60.0 2 20.0 2 20.0 20 2.0 0

Winterbottom 29 15 51.7 8 27.6 6 20.7 53 1.8 0

Ramsey 33 20 60.6 6 18.2 7 21.2 66 2.0 1

Keegan 11 4 36.4 3 27.3 4 36.4 15 1.4 0

Venables 5 2 40.0 3 60.0 0 0.0 9 1.8 0

Wilkinson 1 0 0.0 1 100.0 0 0.0 1 1.0 0

(C) Times Newspapers Ltd, 2007

Eriksson’s record is very similar to that of a premiership winning team. The exact same number of games – 38 – as in a season, and a similar number of wins and points as required to win the league. To compare, the recent winners of the premiership:

year Team Pld W D L F A GD Pts

2007 Man United 38 28 5 5 83 27 56 89

2006 Chelsea 38 29 4 5 72 22 50 91

2005 Chelsea 38 29 8 1 72 15 57 95

2004 Arsenal 38 26 12 0 73 26 47 90

2003 Man United 38 25 8 5 74 43 40 83

2002 Arsenal 38 26 9 3 79 36 43 87

2001 Man United 38 24 8 6 79 31 48 80

Eriksson’s England fits right in there.

So that’s all good. Except it isn’t. Look at the table again. Eriksson has the same points per game as Greenwood, with Hoddle, Revie and Ramsey not far behind on 2.0, so this points idea is a bit misleading. It was my way of trying to help out the Times with a bit of proper data analysis. But this is all a giant red herring.

International football is not about points, or tables. It’s about competitions and trophies. And in this regard, Eriksson has 3 quarter-finals and that’s it. The key column is Trophies – and only one manager has anything in there: Ramsay and the ’66 World Cup.

If semis “count” towards success, Robson is next with Italia 90, along with the European championship teams of ’96 (Venables) and ’68 (Ramsey again). And then there are a bunch of quarter-finals, of which Eriksson has three.

Success can be measured in many ways. Eriksson had an excellent record in competitive matches, right up until the point that his team lost. And in that sense, they were failures. The players were good enough to win big cups, and he didn’t deliver. Arguing that his win-loss record puts him at the top is an interesting diversion, but that’s all. Reputations and records are measured in cups, and Sven, like everyone except Ramsey, has a zero in that column.

Warne, Rugby and more myths

Before I totally forgot, I just wanted to look at two of the most interesting sporting statistical stories of the last few months. Both were different but excellent examples of what stats should be used for – exploding sporting myths.<br />
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The first was in <a href=”http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=8227″>Prospect magazine of February, and looked back at the career of Shane Warne</a>. Aside from the widely publicised stat about him being the highest run scorer in test cricket without a century, it made an interesting case for both Glenn McGrath and Muttiah Muralitharan being considered better bowlers. True, Warne got more test wickets (with 708, still the record), but the other two both have over 500 and are near the top in terms of strike rate and runs per wicket, which Warne is not.<br />
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Does Warne have a defence? Hard to say. Against Murali, a Warne advocate could point to the fact that he travels much better, with more wickets (43), a better average, economy and strike rate, and more 5-fors in only 4 more tests away from home. Murali, in contrast, has a much better record at home in all areas of his bowling, benefiting from pitches that are prepared for him.<br />
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More damningly, Murali has 137 wickets against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, the two weakest teams in test cricket, and an average below 16. Warne has played these two only 3 times, with 17 wickets at around 25. This in effect inflates Murali’s record by about 20%, and shows that his record is not all it seems.<br />
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Glenn McGrath is a harder comparison to Warne. He enjoyed opening for Australia pretty much through out his career, using the new ball for a side that generally trampled on the opposition, and had an outstanding career. Having been in the same side for most of their tests, it’s hard to see who has had the bigger impact. For what it is worth, both bowlers have suffered when the other has not been in the team, suggesting they bowled best in tandem. In the 104 tests they played together, their stats are:<br />
<pre> Warne McGrath<br />
Tests 104 104<br />
Wickets 513 488<br />
Average 24.9 21.3<br />
Win% 68% 68%</pre><br />
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In the tests played without the other, the stats are less good for both:<br />
<pre> Warne McGrath<br />
Tests 41 20<br />
Wickets 195 75<br />
Average 26.8 23.3<br />
Win% 51% 65%</pre><br />
Overall, Warne is a higher wicket taker but with a poorer average. But without McGrath and with Warne, Australia’s win percentage goes from just under 70 to just over 50. Perhaps McGrath is more important after all. <br />
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<b>Rugby myths</b><br />
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The second was a Sunday Times piece from January 28 on Rugby that analysed data from the 2005 and 2006 Six Nations, and found some facts that completely go against the current wisdom of how to play. The most interesting were:<br />
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<blockquote>Possession is everything No, it isn’t. In the 2006 Six Nations, England dominated the battle for possession – indeed, in two of their five games they won 80% more than their opponents – but they ended a lowly fourth <br />
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Ball retention is crucial No, wrong too. In 2005 and 2006, 83% of tries took three phases of play or fewer. The longer you kept the ball, the less likely you were to score <br />
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Goalkicking wins matches It can, but no Six Nations match in 2004 or 2005 was lost by the team scoring most tries. Tries are still vital.<br />
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Yellow cards spell disaster Nope. Most teams reduced to 14 hold up well. Scores made during sin-bin periods rarely turn a match from the course it was already on <br />
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Some Six Nations teams are outstanding at forcing turnovers Not really. Last season every team retained between 90% and 94% of the ball they took into contact <br />
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The drop goal is a means of easy points No. In recent years, fewer than one attempt in three has succeeded <br />
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<i>Source: IRB Game Analysis Centre</i> </blockquote><br />
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What this should mean is that coaches should teach a fundamentally different approach to playing the game. Firstly, it’s not about winning the ball, just doing the best with it when it comes your way. Secondly, if you hit the fourth phase, kick for territory – you have little chance of scoring. Thirdly, infringe all you like – the sin bin doesn’t hurt you that much. Fourthly, only drop for goal when you are in range and it’s the fourth or higher phase.<br />
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Unlikely, but there you go.

Premiership footballers: overpaid, under-motivated, salary-capped?

Football wages are an eternal source of fascination and disgust in equal measure. I have no idea why they are always quoted as a weekly wage rather than per year, as is the case with almost every other profession. But aside from that anomaly, last Sunday it was interesting to compare the lead story of the sports sections of the Sunday Times and the Observer. Depending which you read, you would come away with very different impressions of football salaries. Here’s the <b>Sunday Times</b>:<br />
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<a href=”http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/chelsea/article1496727.ece”>Terry demands �60m deal</a><br />
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<i>JOHN TERRY�S contract negotiations with Chelsea have broken down over the England captain�s demand to be the best-paid player at the club for the next nine years. At current rates, the deal would be worth a minimum of �58.2m, making it the richest in British sporting history, but with new signings at the world�s biggest-spending club it would inevitably rise.</i><br />
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The “limitless parity” clause would guarantee that Terry was the highest-paid player at the club until beyond his 35th birthday. While Chelsea were prepared to increase his wages to the club�s current ceiling of �121,000 a week, which is paid to Michael Ballack and Andriy Shevchenko, they could not accept the liability of promising the defender equivalence with the club�s best-remunerated player for the best part of the next decade. <br />
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Any way you cut it, there’s a big deal going down. If Chelsea’s offer of �30m+ over 5 years is too small, Terry may well walk, but this is the reality of the sums involved. Lest we forget, Beckham is getting up to �25m a year with bonus, and about �5m of that is salary. <br />
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And then I picked up another Sunday paper. In the <b>Observer</b>, it’s a different story:<br />
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<a href=”http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2031162,00.html”>Premiership’s top clubs set �100,000 limit on wages</a><br />
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Frank Lampard and Cristiano Ronaldo have ‘no chance’ of receiving the massive pay increases they are demanding from Chelsea and Manchester United. That is what they will be told this week by the chief executives of their clubs… the decisions signal a sea change in attitudes to players’ wages, which, in some cases, have spiralled to more than �100,000 a week.</i><br />
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What is really going on? Football wages have exceeded inflation for years, and it’s not due to the usual factors that you would expect in an industry. There is no lack of people able to do the jobs. There is an increase in labour liquidity, given the Bosman ruling and the EU transfer laws. Plus, players are more willing than ever to work abroad. These factors should if anything, depress wages or keep them in line with inflation.<br />
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But, as the <a href=”http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/news/article357006.ece”>Premiership wage study in the Independent</a> shows, this is not the case.<br />
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Wages are up 65% from 2000. There is also an interesting disparity between what forwards earn and other positions, with defenders on �653k to the forwards on �806k. John Terry’s demands seem even more outrageous given his defender peers get on average nearly 20% less than their striker counterparts.<br />
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But these sportsmen are not being incentivised correctly. What other group of high earners gets similar coverage? Finance professionals in the City. And how do they get paid? With low salaries and huge bonuses. Bonuses are measured in performance – great in a bull market like the one of the last few years, but measurable all the same.<br />
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Why football should follow suit. Players should have their salaries cut to a basic level, and then big bonuses for performance and results. There is no shortage of stats from Opta on how players perform, which could allow outstanding players in poor teams benefit. And win bonuses could easily be used, with levels going up for league position and rounds-progressed in tournaments. Win bonuses exist now, it’s just that they are paltry compared to salary.<br />
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The current structure encourages players to play well only when their contract is up for renewal. Once signed, they can cruise, knowing that getting dropped is the only big damage that they can suffer to their reputation – and many club’s rotation policy negates that effect anyway.<br />
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So are they going to be salary capped? In reality, no. The problem is that it’s too late. Any club that tries to impose a new wage structure could easily see their players walk out or get bought out. It would only work if all clubs were to impose it uniformly – unlikely given the current situation. Changing wage structures in any industry is hard enough, but in football, where the structures to impose industry-wide changes are even weaker than usual, it would be nigh-on impossible.

Equal prize money, equal dues?

Wimbledon have announced that this year, the men and women will get equal prize money. The predictable responses covered the usual arguments about equality, entertainment and fairness. As <a href=”http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/wimbledon/article1434294.ece”>Pat Cash noted in the Sunday Times</a>: <br />
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<i>”Men need to be far fitter, work harder in their preparation, compete with much more intensity once they get out on the match court, show greater powers of endurance and play many more tough matches… Here�s the deal in everyday terms. What would a man think if he worked in an office next to a woman and she did 40% less work than he did and left a good hour earlier every day, but went home at the end of each week with the same amount of money in her pay packet?” </i><br />
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An interesting viewpoint. But then again, the 2005 Wimbledon finals don’t bear this out. The women’s match lasted longer, had more games and points, and was far more entertaining.<br />
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Roger Federer beat Andy Roddick 6-2 7-6 6-4 – 1hr, 41min<br />
Venus Williams beat Lindsay Davenport 4-6 7-6 9-7 – 2hr, 45min<br />
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Even Pat Cash would be hard pushed to deny that Venus Williams deserved an equal paycheck that day.<br />
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<a href=”http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_wertheim/02/27/mailbag/index.html?eref=writers”>Jon Wertheim notes in his excellent column</a>: <br />
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While on balance, I applaud this decision, I find the WTA’s gloating a bit disingenuous. Check out the prize money from last year and you’ll see that the year-end ATP Masters Cup pays nearly 50 percent more than the analogous WTA Championship. The typical Masters Series event pays nearly double the WTA Tier 1. If I’m a WTA exec, I’m not sure how I respond to the question, “How can you clamour for equal prize money when the market consistently suggests your product is worth less?”</i><br />
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Well, the market may not be an even playing field. The WTA may have a far less energetic marketing department than the ATP. The men’s tour may be in bigger stadiums and attract better sponsors due to other factors other than the quality of the tennis – poor management, or sexism, for instance. This is hard to measure, although I suspect Wertheim’s analysis is correct.<br />
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Given that the men’s and women’s tours are separate, we need to find tournaments where they play together for a better comparison – the Grand Slams. The marketing, stadiums and other factors are effectively the same for men and women. We can then look at the attendance. If Women’s tennis is so poor, the crowds will stay away.<br />
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Some commentators have pointed to TV viewing figures to show that men get up to 20% more viewers. Again, although this is an interesting indicator, it doesn’t allow for external factors – e.g. what else was on TV at the time, such as football, and doesn’t allow for average higher viewing figures on different days of the week. Why should Saturday and Sunday TV figures be level?<br />
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In theory, the ground attendance figures should tell us nothing. Demand for tennis tickets exceeds supply, so the stadiums should be full for both finals. However, fans will go to the ground on the chance of a return ticket or to watch on the big screen, and to watch the doubles and juniors.<br />
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The French, US and Australian events stagger the draw, so that men and women play on the same day except for the finals. This makes a comparison difficult, as there are no figures for specific matches on one day, just overall ground entrance. You can’t tell if the stadium empties for the women OR the men.<br />
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The data for the finals of the Australian Open over the last 18 years is available, and the men have a much bigger attendance: on average, 1,278 more bums on seats. The highest was 2005, with 3,973 more spectators. This doesn’t look good for the women.<br />
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But Wimbledon does something different, which allows for an interesting comparison. It alternates the draw from the Tuesday of the second week onwards. The Quarters, Semis and Finals for the women are on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. The men play their equivalent rounds on Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. If we look at the attendance figures we should in theory see a surge in numbers for the days the men play. And helpfully, Wimbledon’s daily attendance figures for the last 6 years are online, including days affected by rain.<br />
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The only other factor is that over time, there are fewer matches such as doubles and the juniors on the outside courts, which should show a gradual tail-off in crowds during the 2 weeks.<br />
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If women’s tennis is such a poor product, the data for the quarters and semis doesn’t add up. There are on average <b>758 MORE</b> people for the women’s quarters, and <b>1,370 MORE for the women’s semis</b>. But the finals show a 1,000+ advantage to the men. (Luckily, the number of rain affected days was evenly spread over the days.)<br />
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<pre> 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 Total average<br />
Wednesday – Tuesday -1,406 -2,081 1,215 -338 643 -2,583 -758<br />
Friday – Thursday -1,307 -5,544 -365 -1,150 956 -858 -1,378<br />
Sunday – Saturday 1,545 1,905 2,276 1,172 1,669 -1,594 1,162</pre><br />
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What does this mean? Crowds are just as keen to watch a combination of women’s matches on a given day, but if there is just one – the final – they are less enthused. Why might this be? <br />
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Perhaps one women’s match is too high a risk of being over in quick time; or with two matches there is more chance of seeing an entertaining match, whereas the men are a safer bet? If so, then women’s tennis is indeed a poorer product, but only in isolation – more matches means more chance of good play.<br />
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Interestingly, the attendance figures and prize money gender differential for the final have been incredibly close for the last few years – both at around 5%. The women should, if anything, get more than the men for the earlier rounds but less for the final. This contradicts the perceived wisdom that the men’s tour has greater depth than the women.<br />
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In which case, perhaps the women should play a five-set final. Then the attendance on the last 2 days would be a better comparison, and we could leave the equal pay dispute alone for ever.<br />
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Spinning dilemma

The big cricket selectorial dilemma that faced England before the Ashes was whether to pick Ashley Giles or Monty Panesar. <br />
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The merits of the two spinners was based on a couple of premises. One was that England needed Giles to bat at number 8. The other was that Panesar might take you more wickets, but he can’t bat.<br />
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This is not to criticise Giles, who has flown home from the tour to be with his wife who is seriously ill. But the stats show that this should never have been a debate.<br />
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Giles is a run-of-the-mill performer in test cricket. His 143 wickets in 54 matches is a slow rate. His bowling average is poor, at 40.6. And his batting? An average of just over 20 runs is not exactly earth shattering. If he was an all-rounder, it would have to be in the 30s to justify a place.<br />
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And Panesar? While his batting average of 11 is low, he will improve. Giles isn’t going anywhere with his batting average. But Panesar’s bowling is much better: 40 wickets in 11 matches at an average of 32.<br />
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Their strike rates are revealing too: Panesar takes a wicket every 69 balls, Giles every 85.<br />
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So what do England do? They pick Giles, which on average sacrifices taking wicket per match for adding 9 runs per innings. If England selectors think that each opposition wicket is worth just 18 runs, then they have another thing coming. This year, an opposition wicket has cost England on average 36 runs (7551 runs conceded, 209 wickets taken).<br />
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But is Giles a “big match player” as the England selectors have suggested? No more than Panesar. His batting has been solid when required, but he has taken 5 wickets in an innings just five times, to Panesar’s three – in 43 fewer tests. He has four 50s to his name – but his highest score is 59, so these have not been converted into big scores. Scoring “important” runs or taking “crucial” wickets is hard to measure, but Giles isn’t doing it consistently, otherwise his averages would be better.<br />
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One stat where Giles is the equal of Panesar is in who they dismiss. Only 25% of both men’s total wickets are bowlers – three quarters are batsmen, keepers or all-rounders.<br />
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Their overall statistics are:<pre> Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St<br />
Giles 54 1421 59 20.89 0 4 143 5/57 40.60 5 33 0<br />
Panesar 11 68 26 11.33 0 0 40 5/72 31.85 3 2 0<br />
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Marking time – how long to win your second slam?

An interesting <a href=”http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jon_wertheim/10/18/mailbag/index.html”>discussion appeared on the John Wertheim tennis mailbag on the Sports Illustrated site. How long do people take to win a second slam?</a> The theory goes that people win a slam, then have a bit of a dip before they get to win another. After that, it should get easier, at least for a bit, until time and injuries and competition catch up.<br />
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The SI mailbag suggested that it is about 10 tournaments between first and second slam.<br />
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Does the data back this up? Looking back to the start of the open era (1968 onwards), and counting back-to-back tournament wins as 1, the average time it takes a player to win their second slam is <b>5.47 tournaments</b> – just over one year. This is the equivalent of winning Wimbledon, and netting your second slam at the US Open the following year – <b>a lot less than the 10 events mentioned on SI</b>.<br />
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The stats for men and women are very similar – the “event gap” between first and second is 5.37 for men, 5.60 for women. And the trends are also mirrored, with the gap decreasing across the first few wins. After win 6 or so, the data becomes a bit too random to be meaningful.<br />
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The blips in all this are Arthur Ashe, Virginia Wade and Hana Mandlikova, who all won their second slam within the normal timeframe, but took a lot longer to win their third. Their stats are:<br />
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Arthur Ashe: slam #1 to slam #2: <b>5</b> events. Slam 2-3: <b>22</b><br />
Virginia Wade: 1-2: <b>13</b>; 2-3: <b>22</b><br />
Hana Mandlikova: 1-2: <b>5</b>; 2-3: <b>18</b><br />
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Taking these three out makes a marked difference to the figures, with the combined gap between wins 2 and 3 dropping to 3.5 from 5.<br />
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The men and women also have a very similar chance of being a one-slam wonder: 46% for men, just under 43% for women.<br />
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Here is the overall table for open era “slam gaps” for men and women up to 10 grand slam wins:<br />
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<table style=”table-layout: auto; width: 100%; border: 1px solid #efefef; border-spacing: 2px;”><tr><td>Slam victory interval</td><td>1-2</td><td>2-3</td><td>3-4</td><td>4-5</td><td>5-6</td><td>6-7</td><td>7-8</td><td>8-9</td><td>9-10</td></tr><tr bgcolor=”#dedede”><td>Number of players</td><td>47</td><td>34</td><td>28</td><td>23</td><td>18</td><td>16</td><td>12</td><td>9</td><td>6</td></tr><tr><td>Average event gap</td><td>5.47</td><td>5.03</td><td>3.79</td><td>3.96</td><td>3.67</td><td>3.31</td><td>3.08</td><td>3.67</td><td>2.50</td></tr><table><br />
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And you can download and view the entire spreadsheet here: <a href=”https://minto.net/blogs/uploads/robminto_slamgaps.xls” title=”robminto_slamgaps.xls” target=”_blank”>robminto_slamgaps.xls</a>

Go gamecocks

You can learn a lot about a place by the sports that people follow and how many show up. I’m in Columbia, South Carolina on a training course run by Ifra, and <a href=”http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Columbia,+SC&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=33.97326,-81.018248&spn=0.004022,0.010815&t=h&iwloc=A”>right next door is the stadium of the college football team</a>. That’s college football, not pro. How big would you think the stadium is? 10,000? 20,000? Not even close. It’s 80,000. <br />
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And it’s sold out. Every game. And it’s not even a good team – they <a href=”http://southcarolina.rivals.com/teamstandings.asp?Year=2005&Conf=8″>won 7, lost 5</a> last season. <br />
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We’re going to a game tomorrow – a sell out – and I’ll try to get some photos on the site here, but this is an unbelievable crowd attendance. If you look at the stadia of the world, this is big. If you exclude stadiums for motor sports and horseracing, which are round a bigger area than a football pitch, this is the 31st biggest in the world. And this includes all football, cricket, althetics and American football. <br />
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We talk about having great fans in the UK, but this is something else.<br />
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Top stadiums of the world over 80,000 capacity, (excluding motor sports and horse racing)<br />
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<table border=”1″ cellspacing=”0″ cellpadding=”2″ bordercolor=”#CECECE”> <tr> <td>&#160;</td> <td><b>Country</b></td> <td><b>Club</b></td> <td><b>Type</b></td> <td><b>City</b></td> <td><b>Stadium</b></td> <td><b>Capacity</b></td> <td><b>Built</b></td> <td><b>Seats</b></td> </tr> <tr> <td>1</td> <td>ESP</td> <td>FC Barcelona</td> <td>Soco</td> <td>Barcelona</td> <td>L’Estadi (Camp Nou)</td> <td>98 934</td> <td>1957</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2</td> <td>USA</td> <td>UCLA Bruins</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Pasadena</td> <td>Rose Bowl Stadium</td> <td>92 542</td> <td>1922</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3</td> <td>USA</td> <td>LSU Tigers</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Baton Rouge</td> <td>Tiger Stadium</td> <td>92 400</td> <td>1924</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Alabama Crimson Tide</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Tuscaloosa</td> <td>Bryant Denny Stadium</td> <td>92 158</td> <td>1929</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Georgia Bulldogs</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Athens</td> <td>Sanford Stadium</td> <td>92 058</td> <td>1929</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6</td> <td>USA</td> <td>USC Trojans</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Los Angeles</td> <td>L.A. Memorial Coliseum</td> <td>92 000</td> <td>1923</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Washington Redskins</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Landover</td> <td>FedEx Field</td> <td>91 665</td> <td>1997</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8</td> <td>IND</td> <td>Bengal Cricket</td> <td>Cric</td> <td>Calcutta</td> <td>Ranji Stadium</td> <td>90 000</td> <td>-</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9</td> <td>ZAF</td> <td>Orlando Pirates</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Johannesburg</td> <td>FNB Stadium</td> <td>90 000</td> <td>1989</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Florida Gators</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Gainesville</td> <td>Ben Hill Griffin Stadium</td> <td>88 548</td> <td>1929</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>11</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Auburn Tigers</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Auburn</td> <td>Jordan Hare Stadium</td> <td>87 451</td> <td>1939</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>12</td> <td>ITA</td> <td>AC Milan/Inter</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Milano</td> <td>Stadio Giuseppe Meazza</td> <td>85 700</td> <td>1927</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>13</td> <td>ECU</td> <td>Barcelona SC</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Guayaquil</td> <td>Isidro Romero Carbo</td> <td>85 000</td> <td>1986</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>14</td> <td>RUS</td> <td>Spartak Moskva</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Moskva</td> <td>Luzhniki Stadion</td> <td>84 745</td> <td>1956</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>15</td> <td>AUS</td> <td>National Stadium</td> <td>Mix</td> <td>Sydney</td> <td>Telstra Stadium</td> <td>83 500</td> <td>1999</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>16</td> <td>UKR</td> <td>FK Dynamo Kyiv</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Kiev</td> <td>Stadion NSK Olimpiyskiy</td> <td>83 160</td> <td>1948</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>17</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Texas A&M Aggies</td> <td>AF</td> <td>College Station</td> <td>Kyle Field</td> <td>82 600</td> <td>1927</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>18</td> <td>IRL</td> <td>GAA-use</td> <td>GAA</td> <td>Dublin</td> <td>Croke Park</td> <td>82 500</td> <td>2002</td> <td>69 500</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19</td> <td>ITA</td> <td>AS Roma/SS Lazio</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Roma</td> <td>Stadio Olimpico</td> <td>82 307</td> <td>1952</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>20</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Florida State Seminoles</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Tallahassee</td> <td>Doak Campbell Stadium</td> <td>82 300</td> <td>1950</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>21</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Oklahoma Sooners</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Norman</td> <td>Gaylord Family Stadium</td> <td>82 112</td> <td>1923</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>22</td> <td>BRA</td> <td>Clube Atl�tico Mineiro</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Belo Horizonte</td> <td>Est�dio Magalh�es Pinto</td> <td>81 987</td> <td>1965</td> <td>59 042</td> </tr> <tr> <td>23</td> <td>TUR</td> <td>National Stadium</td> <td>Mix</td> <td>Istanbul</td> <td>Atat�rk Olimpiyat Stadi</td> <td>81 653</td> <td>2001</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>24</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Clemson Tigers</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Clemson</td> <td>Memorial Stadium</td> <td>81 473</td> <td>1942</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>25</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Wisconsin Badgers</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Madison</td> <td>Camp Randall Stadium</td> <td>81 321</td> <td>1917</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>26</td> <td>DEU</td> <td>Borussia Dortmund</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Dortmund</td> <td>Signal Iduna Park</td> <td>81 264</td> <td>1974</td> <td>53 675</td> </tr> <tr> <td>27</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Nebraska Cornhuskers</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Lincoln</td> <td>Memorial Stadium</td> <td>81 067</td> <td>1923</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>28</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Notre Dame Fighting Irish</td> <td>AF</td> <td>South Bend</td> <td>Notre Dame Stadium</td> <td>80 795</td> <td>1930</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>29</td> <td>USA</td> <td>UAB Blazers</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Birmingham</td> <td>Legion Field Stadium</td> <td>80 601</td> <td>1926</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>30</td> <td>ESP</td> <td>Real Madrid CF</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Madrid</td> <td>Santiago Bernabeu</td> <td>80 354</td> <td>1947</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>31</td> <td>USA</td> <td><b>S. Carolina Gamecocks</b></td> <td>AF</td> <td><b>Columbia</b></td> <td>Williams Brice Stadium</td> <td><b>80 250</b></td> <td>1934</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>32</td> <td>USA</td> <td>New York Giants/Jets</td> <td>AF</td> <td>E. Rutherford</td> <td>Giants Stadium</td> <td>80 242</td> <td>1976</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>33</td> <td>PER</td> <td>Universitario</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Lima</td> <td>Teodoro Fern�ndez</td> <td>80 093</td> <td>2000</td> <td>60 000</td> </tr> <tr> <td>34</td> <td>USA</td> <td>Texas Longhorns</td> <td>AF</td> <td>Austin</td> <td>Texas Memorial Stadium</td> <td>80 082</td> <td>1924</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>35</td> <td>CHN</td> <td>Multi-use</td> <td>Mix</td> <td>Guangzhou</td> <td>Guangdong Stadium</td> <td>80 012</td> <td>2001</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>36</td> <td>COD</td> <td>National Stadium</td> <td>Mix</td> <td>Kinshasa</td> <td>Stade des Martyrs</td> <td>80 000</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> </tr> <tr> <td>37</td> <td>LBY</td> <td>Al-Ittihad Tripoli</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Tripoli</td> <td>11 June Stadium</td> <td>80 000</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> </tr> <tr> <td>38</td> <td>CHN</td> <td>Shanghai United</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>Shanghai</td> <td>Shanghai Stadium</td> <td>80 000</td> <td>1997</td> <td>all-seater</td> </tr> <tr> <td>39</td> <td>BRA</td> <td>S�o Paulo FC</td> <td>Soc</td> <td>S�o Paulo</td> <td>C�cero Pompeu de Toledo</td> <td>80 000</td> <td>1960</td> <td>-</td> </tr></table><br />
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Source: worldstadiums.com

Out of the Woods?

Much has been made of the superior effort of the European team in Ryder Cups over their higher-ranked and more illustrious American counterparts. The theory goes that Europeans are more suited to the team game, and the solipsistic yanks are just <a href=”http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1877235,00.html”>not team players – the stats back this up, as Gavyn Davies shows</a>. <a href=”http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2006/09/21/sgnich21.xml”>Tiger Woods in particular is often cited</a> as having a very poor Ryder Cup attitude and record when stacked next to his 12 majors and umpteen titles.<br />
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So far, so true. But a couple of things look out of place here.<br />
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Tiger Woods may have performed badly, but his record in Ryder Cup play is as follows:<br />
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Cups played: 4<br />
matches: <b>20</b><br />
Overall <b>W-L-H: 7-11-2</b> <br />
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This is a scoring record of 40% – not good for the outstanding golfer of his generation.<br />
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However, the US team in the four Cups in which Woods has taken part have scored 13.5, 14.5, 12.5 and 9.5 points, out of a possible 28×4=112 – a return of 44%. So Wood’s contribution is not that much worse than the rest of the team. It’s only a 4% difference. <br />
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If Woods had played 4 percent better, he would have won only one more match overall in Ryder Cup play – enough to have swung the 1997 cup to the US away from Europe if, for example, he had beaten Constantino Rocca in the singles, but not enough to make a difference in any other cup. <br />
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So – Woods may be poor, but the rest of the team is not doing much better. Given that since 1997 only TWO <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_championships_%28golf%29#Major_championship_winners”>majors</a> have been won by Europeans (the 1999 Masters by Jos� Mar�a Olaz�bal and Open by Paul Lawrie) and another <b>13 Americans</b> have won Majors aside from Woods, Tiger should not be the scapegoat.

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